John 17:5

New Testament Gospel ASV (1901)

What does John 17:5 say?

The American Standard Version records this verse as: “And now, Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.” Read the surrounding verses and the named sources below before drawing broader conclusions.

The verse

And now, Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
John 17:5 — American Standard Version

Context — John 17

American Standard Version (1901) — public domain. Click any verse for its study page.
5And now, Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

What do historical commentaries say?

John Gill's Exposition
John Gill (1697–1771) · Exposition of the Old and New Testament · 18th-century historical commentary
“And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self, etc.] Not with his perfections, these he had, they dwelt bodily in him; or with his nature, in which he was one with him; but as Mediator, with his glorious presence in heaven, by setting him at his right hand, and crowning him with glory and honour. The Jews have a notion that God will give to the King Messiah, hl[m lç dwbkh ˆm, “of the supreme glory” f637: the glory Christ prays for is, as he says, the glory which I had with thee before the world was; the same phrase with µlw[l, or µlw[h µdwq, used by the Jews f638. This is not to be understood of the glory of the human nature of Christ, abstractly considered; for that is no person of…”
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Jamieson, Fausset & Brown
Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown · Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible · 19th-century historical commentary
“And now--in return. glorify thou me--The "I Thee" and "Thou Me" are so placed in the original, each beside its fellow, as to show that A PERFECT RECIPROCITY OF SERVICES of the Son to the Father first, and then of the Father to the Son in return, is what our Lord means here to express. with the glory which I had with thee before the world was--when "in the beginning the Word was with God" (Joh 1:1), "the only-begotten Son in the bosom of the Father" (Joh 1:18). With this pre-existent glory, which He veiled on earth, He asks to be reinvested, the design of the veiling being accomplished--not, however, simply as before, but now in our nature.”
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Barnes' Notes
Albert Barnes (1798–1870) · Notes on the Whole Bible · 19th-century historical commentary
“With thine own self - In heaven, granting me a participation of the same honor which the Father has. He had just said that he had glorified God on the earth, he now prays that God would glorify him in heaven. With the glory - With the honor. This word also includes the notion of happiness, or everything which could render the condition blessed. Before the world was - There could not be a more distinct and clear declaration of the pre-existence of Christ than this. It means before the creation of the world; before there was any world. Of course, the speaker here must have existed then, and this is equivalent to saying that he existed from eternity. See John 1:1-2; John 6:62; John 3:13; John…”
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Wesley's Explanatory Notes
John Wesley (1703–1791) · Explanatory Notes upon the New Testament and Old Testament notes · 18th-century historical commentary
“The glory which I had - He does not say received - He always had it, till he emptied himself of it in the days of his flesh. John 17:6”
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Tyndale Open Study Notes
Tyndale House Publishers · Tyndale Open Study Notes · Modern study notes
“17:5 Jesus prayed to return to the position he had with God before the world began (1:1).”
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Treasury of Scriptural Knowledge
R. A. Torrey and contributors · The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge · Cross-reference reference work
“glorify: Joh 17:24, Joh 1:18, Joh 3:13, Joh 10:30, Joh 14:9; Pro 8:22-31; Phi 2:6; Col 1:15-17; Heb 1:3, Heb 1:10; Jo1 1:2; Rev 5:9-14 before: Joh 1:1-3; Mat 25:34; Pe1 1:20; Rev 13:8 John 17:6”
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