Job 13:4

Old Testament Wisdom/Poetry ASV (1901)

What does Job 13:4 say?

The American Standard Version records this verse as: “But ye are forgers of lies; Ye are all physicians of no value.” Read the surrounding verses and the named sources below before drawing broader conclusions.

The verse

But ye are forgers of lies; Ye are all physicians of no value.
Job 13:4 — American Standard Version

Context — Job 13

American Standard Version (1901) — public domain. Click any verse for its study page.
4But ye are forgers of lies; Ye are all physicians of no value.

What do historical commentaries say?

John Gill's Exposition
John Gill (1697–1771) · Exposition of the Old and New Testament · 18th-century historical commentary
“But ye [are] forgers of lies, etc.] This is a hard and very harsh saying; Job was now in a passion, provoked by his friends, and retorts upon them what they had charged him with, (<181103>Job 11:3); so often in controversies and disputes between good men undue heats arise, and unbecoming words drop from their lips and pens; to tell lies is a bad thing, but to forge them, to tell a studied premeditated lie, is dreadfully shocking, contrary to the grace of God, and which good men cannot allow themselves in, it is the character of bad men, (see <236308>Isaiah 63:8 <19B969>Psalm 119:69); but it may be Job may not design lies in a strict and proper sense, but falsehoods and untruths; for though…”
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Jamieson, Fausset & Brown
Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown · Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible · 19th-century historical commentary
“forgers of lies--literally, "artful twisters of vain speeches" [UMBREIT].”
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Barnes' Notes
Albert Barnes (1798–1870) · Notes on the Whole Bible · 19th-century historical commentary
“But ye are forgers of lies - The word lies here seems to be used in a large sense, to denote sophisms, false accusations, errors. They maintained false positions; they did not see the exact truth in respect to the divine dealings, and to the character of Job. They maintained strenuously that Job was a hypocrite, and that God was punishing him for his sins. They maintained that God deals with people in exact accordance with their charactor in this world, all of which Job regarded as false doctrine, and asserted that they defended it with sophistical arguments invented for the purpose, and thus they could be spoken of as “forgers of lies.” Physicians of no value - The meaning is, that they had…”
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Treasury of Scriptural Knowledge
R. A. Torrey and contributors · The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge · Cross-reference reference work
“ye are forgers: Job 4:7-11, Job 5:1-5, Job 8:3, Job 8:4, 18:5-21, Job 21:27-34, 22:6-30; Exo 20:16; Psa 119:69 physicians: Job 6:21, Job 16:2; Jer 6:14, Jer 8:22, Jer 30:13, Jer 46:11; Eze 34:4; Hos 5:13; Mar 2:17; Mar 5:26 Job 13:5”
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