Jude 1:8

New Testament Epistle (General) ASV (1901)

What does Jude 1:8 say?

The American Standard Version records this verse as: “Yet in like manner these also in their dreamings defile the flesh, and set at nought dominion, and rail at dignities.” Read the surrounding verses and the named sources below before drawing broader conclusions.

The verse

Yet in like manner these also in their dreamings defile the flesh, and set at nought dominion, and rail at dignities.
Jude 1:8 — American Standard Version

Context — Jude 1

American Standard Version (1901) — public domain. Click any verse for its study page.
8Yet in like manner these also in their dreamings defile the flesh, and set at nought dominion, and rail at dignities.

What do historical commentaries say?

John Gill's Exposition
John Gill (1697–1771) · Exposition of the Old and New Testament · 18th-century historical commentary
“Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, etc.] Which may be literally understood, either of the Jewish doctors, who pretended to be interpreters of dreams, as R. Akiba, R. Lazar, and others f12; or of the false teachers in the apostle's time, and of their filthy dreams, and nocturnal pollutions in them; which sense the Arabic and Ethiopic versions confirm; the former rendering the words thus, “so these retiring in the time of sleep, defile their own flesh”; and the latter thus, “and likewise these, who in their own sleep, pollute their own flesh”; as also of their pretensions to divine assistance and intelligence by dreams; and likewise may be figuratively understood of them;…”
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Jamieson, Fausset & Brown
Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown · Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible · 19th-century historical commentary
“also--rather, "In like manner nevertheless" (notwithstanding these warning examples) [ALFORD]. these . . . dreamers--The Greek has not "filthy" of English Version. The clause, "these men dreaming" (that is, in their dreams), belongs to all the verbs, "defile," "despise," and "speak evil." All sinners are spiritually asleep, and their carnal activity is as it were a dream (Th1 5:6-7). Their speaking evil of dignities is because they are dreaming, and know not what they are speaking evil of (Jde 1:10). "As a man dreaming seems to himself to be seeing and nearing many things, so the natural man's lusts are agitated by joy, distress, fear, and the other passions. But he is a stranger to…”
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Barnes' Notes
Albert Barnes (1798–1870) · Notes on the Whole Bible · 19th-century historical commentary
“Likewise also - In the same way do these persons defile the flesh, or resemble the inhabitants of Sodom; that is, they practice the same kind of vices. What the apostle says is, that their character resembled that of the inhabitants of Sodom; the example which he adduces of the punishment which was brought on those sinners, leaves it to be clearly inferred that the persons of whom he was speaking would be punished in a similar manner. These filthy dreamers - The word “filthy” has been supplied by our translators, but there is no good reason why it should have been introduced. The Greek word (ἐνυπνιάζω enupniazō) means to dream; and is applied to these persons as holding doctrines and…”
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Wesley's Explanatory Notes
John Wesley (1703–1791) · Explanatory Notes upon the New Testament and Old Testament notes · 18th-century historical commentary
“In like manner these dreamers - Sleeping and dreaming all their lives. Despise authority - Those that are invested with it by Christ, and made by him the overseers of his flock. Rail at dignities - The apostle does not seem to speak of worldly dignities. These they had "in admiration for the sake of gain," Jde 1:16; but those holy men, who for the purity of their lives, the soundness of their doctrine, and the greatness of their labours in the work of the ministry, were truly honourable before God and all good men; and who were grossly vilified by those who turned the grace of God into lasciviousness. Probably they were the impure followers of Simon Magus, the same with the Gnostics and…”
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Tyndale Open Study Notes
Tyndale House Publishers · Tyndale Open Study Notes · Modern study notes
“1:8 supernatural beings: Literally glorious ones, which are probably evil angels. In the Old Testament and in Judaism, angels were given a prominent role in the judgment. The false teachers might have been downplaying the reality of a judgment to come (see 1:18; 2 Pet 3:3-4) or denying the glorious origin of these fallen angels (cp. 2 Pet 2:10).”
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Treasury of Scriptural Knowledge
R. A. Torrey and contributors · The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge · Cross-reference reference work
“these: Jer 38:25-28 defile: Co1 3:17; Ti1 1:10; Pe2 2:10-12 despise: Gen 3:5; Num 16:3, Num 16:12, Num 16:13, Sa1 10:27; Psa 2:1-6, Psa 12:3-4; Luk 19:14; Act 7:27, Act 7:39; Th1 4:8; Heb 13:17 speak: Jde 1:9, Jde 1:10; Exo 22:28; Pro 30:11, Pro 30:17; Ecc 10:20; Act 23:5; Pe1 2:17 Jude 1:9”
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