Joshua 15:8

Old Testament Historical ASV (1901)

What does Joshua 15:8 say?

The American Standard Version records this verse as: “and the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the side of the Jebusite southward (the same is Jerusalem); and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the uttermost part of the vale of Rephaim northward;” Read the surrounding verses and the named sources below before drawing broader conclusions.

The verse

and the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the side of the Jebusite southward (the same is Jerusalem); and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the uttermost part of the vale of Rephaim northward;
Joshua 15:8 — American Standard Version

Context — Joshua 15

American Standard Version (1901) — public domain. Click any verse for its study page.
8and the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the side of the Jebusite southward (the same is Jerusalem); and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the uttermost part of the vale of Rephaim northward;

What do historical commentaries say?

John Gill's Exposition
John Gill (1697–1771) · Exposition of the Old and New Testament · 18th-century historical commentary
“And the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom, etc.] Which belonged to a man of that name formerly; and was near Jerusalem, placed by Jerom f308 to the east of it; but Reland f309 rather thinks it is to the south. It was infamous for the sacrifices of children to Moloch in it, by burning them, or causing them to pass through fire: hence, in allusion to it, hell fire is often in the New Testament called “Geenna”, (<400522>Matthew 5:22,29,30 10:28 18:9 23:15,33 <410943>Mark 9:43,45,47) (<421205>Luke 12:5 <590306> James 3:6); this border from the salt sea, and from Jordan, is all along said to “go up”, because from hence to Jerusalem was an ascent, that lying on higher ground: unto…”
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Barnes' Notes
Albert Barnes (1798–1870) · Notes on the Whole Bible · 19th-century historical commentary
“The valley of the son of Hinnom - This valley begins on the west of Jerusalem at the road to Joppa, and turning southeastward round the foot of Mount Zion joins the deeper valley of Kedron on the south of the city. It was in this ravine, more particularly at Tophet in the more wild and precipitous part of it toward the east, that the later kings of Judah offered the sacrifices of children to Moloch (2Ch 28:3; 2 Chronicles 33:6, etc.). After these places had been defiled by Josiah, Tophet and the whole valley of Hinnom were held in abomination by the Jews, and the name of the latter was used to denote the place of eternal torment Matthew 5:22. The Greek term Gehenna (γεέννα geenna) is in…”
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Wesley's Explanatory Notes
John Wesley (1703–1791) · Explanatory Notes upon the New Testament and Old Testament notes · 18th-century historical commentary
“Went up - Properly; for the line went from Jordan and the salt sea, to the higher grounds nigh Jerusalem; and therefore the line is said to go down, Jos 18:16, because there it takes a contrary course, and goes downward to Jordan and the sea. Valley of Hinnom - A very pleasant place, but afterward made infamous. Of the Jebusites - Of the city of the Jebusites, which was anciently called Jebussi. Jerusalem - It may seem hence, that Jerusalem properly, or at least principally, belonged to Benjamin; and yet it is ascribed to Judah also; either because a part of the city was allotted to Judah; or because the Benjamites desired the help and conjunction of this powerful tribe of Judah, for the…”
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Tyndale Open Study Notes
Tyndale House Publishers · Tyndale Open Study Notes · Modern study notes
“15:8 The valley of Ben-Hinnom marked Judah’s northern border. Jerusalem occupied a ridge rising northward from the lower end of this valley within the tribe of Benjamin’s territory. Neither tribe occupied Jerusalem, so when David captured it, it became the royal city of his dynasty rather than just another tribal city.”
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Treasury of Scriptural Knowledge
R. A. Torrey and contributors · The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge · Cross-reference reference work
“valley of the son: A valley near to Jerusalem. Jos 18:16; Kg2 23:10; Ch2 28:3; Jer 7:31, Jer 7:32, Jer 19:2, Jer 19:6, Jer 19:14 the Jebusite: Jos 15:63, Jos 18:28; Jdg 1:8, Jdg 1:21, Jdg 19:10 valley of the giants: Situated apparently west of Jerusalem and mount Moriah. Jos 18:16; Sa2 5:18, Sa2 5:22; Isa 17:5, the valley of Rephaim Joshua 15:9”
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