John 7:12

New Testament Gospel ASV (1901)

What does John 7:12 say?

The American Standard Version records this verse as: “And there was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him: some said, He is a good man; others said, Not so, but he leadeth the multitude astray.” Read the surrounding verses and the named sources below before drawing broader conclusions.

The verse

And there was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him: some said, He is a good man; others said, Not so, but he leadeth the multitude astray.
John 7:12 — American Standard Version

Context — John 7

American Standard Version (1901) — public domain. Click any verse for its study page.
12And there was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him: some said, He is a good man; others said, Not so, but he leadeth the multitude astray.

What do historical commentaries say?

John Gill's Exposition
John Gill (1697–1771) · Exposition of the Old and New Testament · 18th-century historical commentary
“And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him, etc.] There was a general whisper, and a private controversy and contention among the people about him, upon inquiry being made after him: for some said he is a good man; a man of a good principle, of a good life and conversation; and who is good, kind, and beneficent, both to the bodies and souls of men; preaches good doctrine, and does many good things: others said: nay, or denied him to be a good man: but he deceiveth the people; drawing them off from the law of Moses, teaching them to break the sabbath, setting himself up for the Messiah, and asserting himself to be the son of God.”
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Jamieson, Fausset & Brown
Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown · Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible · 19th-century historical commentary
“much murmuring--buzzing. among the people--the multitudes; the natural expression of a Jewish writer, indicating without design the crowded state of Jerusalem at this festival [WEBSTER and WILKINSON]. a good man . . . Nay . . . deceiveth the people--the two opposite views of His claims, that they were honest, and that they were an imposture.”
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Barnes' Notes
Albert Barnes (1798–1870) · Notes on the Whole Bible · 19th-century historical commentary
“Murmuring - Contention, disputing. He deceiveth the people - That is, he is deluding them, or drawing them away by pretending to be the Messiah. return to 'Top of Page'”
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Wesley's Explanatory Notes
John Wesley (1703–1791) · Explanatory Notes upon the New Testament and Old Testament notes · 18th-century historical commentary
“There was much murmuring among the multitude - Much whispering; many private debates with each other, among those who were come from distant parts. John 7:13”
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Treasury of Scriptural Knowledge
R. A. Torrey and contributors · The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge · Cross-reference reference work
“murmuring: Joh 7:32, Joh 9:16; Phi 2:14 some: Joh 7:25-27, Joh 7:40-43, Joh 6:14, Joh 9:16, Joh 10:19-21; Mat 10:25, Mat 16:13-16, Mat 21:46; Luk 7:16 is a: Luk 6:45, Luk 18:19, Luk 23:47, Luk 23:50; Act 11:24; Rom 5:7 deceiveth: Joh 7:47, Joh 7:52; Mat 27:63 John 7:13”
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