1 Samuel 17:12

Old Testament Historical ASV (1901)

What does 1 Samuel 17:12 say?

The American Standard Version records this verse as: “Now David was the son of that Ephrathite of Beth-lehem-judah, whose name was Jesse; and he had eight sons: and the man was an old man in the days of Saul, stricken [in years] among men.” Read the surrounding verses and the named sources below before drawing broader conclusions.

The verse

Now David was the son of that Ephrathite of Beth-lehem-judah, whose name was Jesse; and he had eight sons: and the man was an old man in the days of Saul, stricken [in years] among men.
1 Samuel 17:12 — American Standard Version

Context — 1 Samuel 17

American Standard Version (1901) — public domain. Click any verse for its study page.
12Now David was the son of that Ephrathite of Beth-lehem-judah, whose name was Jesse; and he had eight sons: and the man was an old man in the days of Saul, stricken [in years] among men.

What do historical commentaries say?

John Gill's Exposition
John Gill (1697–1771) · Exposition of the Old and New Testament · 18th-century historical commentary
“Now David was the son of that Ephrathite of Bethlehemjudah, whose name was Jesse, etc.] Before made mention of, (<131601>1 Chronicles 16:1) and he had eight sons; seven only are mentioned, (<130213>1 Chronicles 2:1315) one of them being, as is thought by some, a grandson, perhaps Jonadab the son of Shammah; or was a son by another woman, or died without children, as Jarchi, and therefore not mentioned: and the man went among men for an old man in the days of Saul; the phrase, “among men”, either signifies that he was ranked among old men, infirm and unfit for war, and so excused, and his sons went in his room, so Kimchi; or he was reckoned among men of the first rank, men of esteem, credit,…”
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Barnes' Notes
Albert Barnes (1798–1870) · Notes on the Whole Bible · 19th-century historical commentary
“This and the following verses down to the end of 1 Samuel 17:31 are omitted in the Vatican copy of the Septuagint, as are 1 Samuel 17:55-58. The object of the omission was doubtless to avoid the apparent inconsistency with regard to Saul’s acquaintance with David (see 1 Samuel 16:21 note). return to 'Top of Page'”
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Wesley's Explanatory Notes
John Wesley (1703–1791) · Explanatory Notes upon the New Testament and Old Testament notes · 18th-century historical commentary
“Old man - Therefore he went not himself to the camp. 1 Kings (1 Samuel) 17:15”
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Tyndale Open Study Notes
Tyndale House Publishers · Tyndale Open Study Notes · Modern study notes
“17:12 Ephrathite: Ephrath is a name for Bethlehem (Gen 35:19; 1 Chr 4:4).”
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Treasury of Scriptural Knowledge
R. A. Torrey and contributors · The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge · Cross-reference reference work
“David: Sa1 17:58, Sa1 16:1, Sa1 16:18; Rut 4:22; Mat 1:6; Luk 3:31, Luk 3:32 Ephrathite: Gen 35:19; Psa 132:6; Mic 5:2; Mat 2:1, Mat 2:6 eight sons: Sa1 16:10, Sa1 16:11; Ch1 2:13-16 1 Kings (1 Samuel) 17:13”
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