1 Samuel 11:8

Old Testament Historical ASV (1901)

What does 1 Samuel 11:8 say?

The American Standard Version records this verse as: “And he numbered them in Bezek; and the children of Israel were three hundred thousand, and the men of Judah thirty thousand.” Read the surrounding verses and the named sources below before drawing broader conclusions.

The verse

And he numbered them in Bezek; and the children of Israel were three hundred thousand, and the men of Judah thirty thousand.
1 Samuel 11:8 — American Standard Version

Context — 1 Samuel 11

American Standard Version (1901) — public domain. Click any verse for its study page.
8And he numbered them in Bezek; and the children of Israel were three hundred thousand, and the men of Judah thirty thousand.

What do historical commentaries say?

John Gill's Exposition
John Gill (1697–1771) · Exposition of the Old and New Testament · 18th-century historical commentary
“And when he numbered them at Bezek, etc.] Which was the place appointed to meet at, the same with that in (<070104>Judges 1:4), (see Gill on “<070104>Judges 1:4”) though some take the word to be an appellative, and not, the proper name of a place, and render it, “with a stone”; with which he numbered, taking a stone from each, and laying them on a heap, and then telling them f217; so Bizakion signifies little stones f218 with the Greeks: or “with a fragment”; either of an earthen vessel, or of a stone, or of the branch of a tree they carried in their hands, and so the king’s servants numbered not the men, but the branches f219: and the children of Israel were three hundred thousand men; who…”
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Jamieson, Fausset & Brown
Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown · Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible · 19th-century historical commentary
“Bezek--This place of general muster was not far from Shechem, on the road to Beth-shan, and nearly opposite the ford for crossing to Jabesh-gilead. The great number on the muster-roll showed the effect of Saul's wisdom and promptitude.”
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Barnes' Notes
Albert Barnes (1798–1870) · Notes on the Whole Bible · 19th-century historical commentary
“He numbered them - This was done to see who was absent (compare Judges 21:9). Bezek has been conjectured to be the name of a district rather than of a town. Two villages retained the name in the time of Eusebius 17 miles from Nablous, on the way to Beth-shean. The children of Israel and the men of Judah - This looks like the language of later times, times perhaps subsequent to the establishment of the two kingdoms of Israel and Judah. Israel here (including Benjamin) is as ten to one compared with Judah. This is about the true proportion. return to 'Top of Page'”
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Wesley's Explanatory Notes
John Wesley (1703–1791) · Explanatory Notes upon the New Testament and Old Testament notes · 18th-century historical commentary
“Men of Judah - Who are numbered apart to their honour, to shew how readily they, to whom the kingdom was promised, Gen 49:10, submitted to their king, though of another tribe; and how willing they were to hazard themselves for their brethren although they might have excused themselves from the necessity of defending their own country from their dangerous neighbours the Philistines. 1 Kings (1 Samuel) 11:14”
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Tyndale Open Study Notes
Tyndale House Publishers · Tyndale Open Study Notes · Modern study notes
“11:8 Bezek was about fourteen miles west of Jabesh-gilead. • The narrator’s use of the terms Israel and Judah anticipates the later division of the kingdom (1 Kgs 12).”
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Treasury of Scriptural Knowledge
R. A. Torrey and contributors · The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge · Cross-reference reference work
“Bezek: Jdg 1:4, Jdg 1:5 the children: Sa1 13:15, Sa1 15:4; Sa2 24:9; Ch2 17:12-19 1 Kings (1 Samuel) 11:9”
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